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I'll just start out by saying that I don't have a reason for you to trust me - it's too early in the game to trust anyone blindly just yet. But I'm contacting you two because I've noticed some things and you're both safes. I'd as soon tell you two as anyone else - at least one of you will be around tomorrow. So I don't expect you to trust me, but I would like for you to look at what I'm saying and keep it in mind.

Lady Huang is lying in this comment. Riddle, you've played with her before - did she publicly ask anyone to voice their suspicions? She didn't when I played with her. Also, check her livejournal userinfo - she made a locked post right about the time the first post of this game was made. Why would she make a locked post that early in the game if she only wanted to organize her thoughts, or contact other sheep? There wouldn't be enough info to comment on.

I could be wrong - I have been before, frequently - but she's not anyone to take lightly, and the locked post is very suspicious to me. Unless it was locked to you and Shibuya, as you're the only known safes right now? Why would she have a reason to lock a post to anyone else?

Also, as Ash and I are the only ones with three or more votes in the suspicion poll right now, one of us is being set up. It's an easy way for the wolves to frame a scapegoat - the votes at this stage are usually too divided for the sheep to all vote one way. Since I told Dearka to vote for me, I don't think I'm being set up by the wolves - I think Ash is. He may be dumb and loud, but I don't think he's a wolf. Elric and Lady Huang have both talked of voting him out of the flock 'just cause' - Elric's reasoning seems to be that we can stand to lose a couple of useless sheep, when in fact, all we need him for is his vote. We really can't stand to lose him, but it looks like it's either him or me.

As for me, I don't think I'm going to survive the night unless I prove to be an acceptable scapegoat or stupid enough to believe whatever the wolves say. I may even get voted out - who knows? In any case, my advice is to watch Lady Huang and Elric, but don't be too vocal about it - if you set them off, and they are wolves, they can get rid of you.

Date: 2005-09-29 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddle-death.livejournal.com
Mmm. It amuses me that you assume I'm safe.

Also - by Elric, I assume you're talking about Edward, not Alphonse.

In any case. I have very little cause to like or trust Miss Huang, though that is neither here nor now. I have indeed played with her before, much to my chagrin. I would not say she is "lying" about often asking about suspicions, as she is an active and analytical player, however...

And no, her locked post was not aimed towards Shibuya and myself. It could, of course, be a coincidence.

As for Ash... I do not care whose side he is on. I want him out.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrisngphoenix.livejournal.com
Yes, Edward Elric. I've not had many dealings with his brother.

You very well could be a wolf with a faked clue, but since we've had no others to go on, I figure I might as well trust you. Better than trusting no one, really - and if I get picked off tonight, I'd like for someone to know what I noticed.

And this could all be coincidence, and like I said, I'm wrong a lot. These are just things I'd like you to think about. When I played with her last, she didn't ask in public for anyone's suspicions. I brought one of my suspicions to her in a locked post, and that was all we talked before she was killed. In general, asking for others to incriminate other players in public isn't a very prudent idea, and she's a very prudent woman.

And you do realize that if Ash is a sheep, and he gets voted out, we're one step closer to losing, right? And I hate losing, even if I am dead. I take it you were the fourth person to vote against him in the suspicion poll - how long has your vote been up?

Date: 2005-09-29 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddle-death.livejournal.com
Edward's reasoning echoes my own, more or less - he and I are close, and discussed it. Sheep or wolf, having Ash on your team is something of a liability.

And how long has my vote been up? That is for me to know, thank you.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrisngphoenix.livejournal.com
Well, considering you seem to have voted with Yuuri, it doesn't matter. It doesn't look like Ash is the one being set up here. Now that I know this, I don't need to know. Thank you for letting me know who you voted for, though.

And you should know very well that you can't trust your own friends in this game unless you're given a reason to - you were a wolf the last game you played in, weren't you?

Date: 2005-09-29 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrisngphoenix.livejournal.com
I should start worrying now, shouldn't I?

Date: 2005-09-29 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddle-death.livejournal.com
Of course not. We're both sheep, are we not?

Date: 2005-09-29 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrisngphoenix.livejournal.com
If so, you're probably the most wolfish sheep I've ever seen.

Although I've got no other reason to distrust you than your attitude. And you do have a clue in your corner.

But last time I got burned by a pretty convincing wolf. It worked out all right in the end, but I still felt pretty stupid afterwards. Turns out it saved my backside, because before that, he had me marked for death. When he realized I wasn't quite as smart as he thought, he decided to hit Ari instead.

Which would probably be why the wolves would want me out now, to answer the question you posed in public.

Date: 2005-09-29 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrisngphoenix.livejournal.com
Well.

Looks like I'm getting voted out anyway.

I'm trying to see if I can get Lady Huang to admit to voting me out in the suspicion poll. She probably won't, and I probably won't believe anything she says on it, anyway, but I suspect she did.

So you can draw your own conclusions.

Shibuya, you too.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingcatcher.livejournal.com
... Livejournal ate my comment. That's - I worked so hard on it! Oh, very unfair, but I guess that's life.

Well, to summarize: I really do think Ash is trying to hard - I know, it's hard to tell when it comes to him, but - to prove his innocence. He's been actively pointing it out to a lot of people, so I'd really have to say that maybe he and Ying are working together.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddle-death.livejournal.com
You really never know with him. But of the people I would like to see gone immediately, when we really have no real evidence to go by - Ash Ketchum and Huang Yue Ying are at the very top of my list.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingcatcher.livejournal.com
Which first, though? I think that with the way things stand now, Ash is definitely the prime suspect, but it could be harder to convince others about Ying as time goes on.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riddle-death.livejournal.com
Ash is already set up rather nicely - and if he stays around any longer, we may try to kill each other.

And Miss Huang is terribly clever, and if she is a sheep, it would be useful to keep her around.

However, if she is a wolf, it will be fairly difficult to get rid of her when the time comes.

Date: 2005-09-29 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrisngphoenix.livejournal.com
I noticed that, too, actually - so if you both voted for him, that means he can't be the one being set up by the wolves. I have four votes, one of which I know to be Dearka Elthman - and he only voted for me after I asked him to, just so his vote could be accounted for. Which leaves three unidentified votes.

And I noticed he was trying to pass himself off as a king in a couple of comments, too. You may very well be right.

As for Lady Huang... she went right into ripping on me about the wench thing, and then skipped over to cracking on Wei. She's pretty business-like - why would she bother with any of that unless it pertained to the game, like last time?

Date: 2005-09-29 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slick-bastard.livejournal.com
Heh. Tell you what, Ling; I'll talk this over with you if you make it to next round, but I'll keep the advice in mind, anyway.

Date: 2005-09-29 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrisngphoenix.livejournal.com
Hey, I'm not ousted yet.

But this is simple subtraction, really.

I have no reason to think you're a wolf - you weren't even going to vote, and you only voted for me because I asked you to. So that's three unaccounted for votes on me.

Ash had four - Riddle and Shibuya, who are both safes, said above that they had voted for him. Which leaves two unaccounted for votes. I believe Evangeline voted for Edward Elric and Alphonse voted for you. I voted for Lady Huang.

Since the wolves would vote as a pack, they couldn't all three be voting Ash out - there are only two unaccounted for votes. And Lady Huang didn't realize I'd already accounted for Riddle and Shibuya's votes on Ash.

By her admitting that she voted for me, I believe, unless I'm misunderstanding either Riddle or Shibuya, that she should be a wolf. I also find it funny that she's going after me for little to no reason - if she were a sheep, I believe she'd wait for more evidence before she decided to incriminate me. She feels I'm a threat and is trying to eliminate me - last game, we worked together.

And I'm getting all of this out of the way now because I'm either about to die or get voted out. I won't be around tomorrow.

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